lobelia321: (jim knopf)
[personal profile] lobelia321
Oh, peaches and plums! All you lovelies who left comments!

I have returned. I am recovering from jetlag by recovering from cold turkey. Because, yes, strangely, bizarrely, perversely and inexplicably, the United States, cradle of the internet revolution (besides Switzerland, that is) and mythical land of web-web everywhere, is a barren land of no internet cafes.

Remember how I always found a little webnook in Rome or Munich or Paris? Not so in Baltimore, Philadelphia or New York. And if, then fiendishly expensive, e.g. 35 cents per minute! (In my local internet cafe I could have a go for *one pence* per minute, that's 1 1/2 cents.)

Also, my mobile didn't work in the States. I was *bereft*! I made a meeting point to see a friend: we never met up. Life is not worth living without the mobile.



But the offline cold turkey didn't matter all that much in the final analysis because I did meet up with so many other old and lovely friends many of whom I hadn't seen for years and one of whom I hadn't seen for over a decade. I was determined to overcome my depressive state (and I was in near catatonia when I flew across) and seeing these old friends was a benison and a balm, it really was.

South Bend, Indiana: very exotic (for a European). Everyone drives hummers or hummer-like vehicles, and nothing is accessible on foot. I bought a very nice dress. And saw two wonderful old friends, with one of whom (the male one) I had very interesting discussions about sexuality, always a topic of perennial interest. ;-)

Philadelphia: interesting but shocking amount of slum. My son had warned me off West-Philadelphia (he gleans this from the opening song of "Fresh Prince of Bel Air") and true, it was drive-thru country: you wouldn't want to get out. Beautiful old buildings but totally, and I mean totally, run down. All of this goes on for acres and acres. Particularly shocking: it's all black. Class is divided along racial lines.

I also saw a great Frank Lloyd Wright synagogue and had "chicken'n'pot".

Baltimore: this was charming. A lovely town, gracious, on a charming little harbour with many portside pubs and eateries. This was the only place I didn't have friends and stayed in a hotel.

New York City: I saw a very old friend here whom I hadn't seen for 13 years. He's a sculptor and absolutely one of the handsomest and most charismatic men I know. I had forgotten how nice it is to hang about with a friend where there is lots of sexual frisson, I enjoyed it *a lot*. In fact, I think I really enjoyed it for its own sake for the first time: this sort of thing used to discompose me when I was younger. I met his wife and daughter, both of whom are also absolutely great and whose existence, I was pleased to note, did not deter in the least from the frisson -- au contraire. And he's Manly, he's 49. It goes to show that a man in the flesh is always to be preferred to a drool object on the screen.

New Yorkers are good looking. Americans, on the whole, I found very good looking. Primarily, because you see so many different *types* of good looks: white, black, Asian, mixed, the lot.

Am too jetlagged to think of anything else right now. Also, I want to finish Karl/Dom epic.


Any juicy news? What have I been missing? Rec the good fics!

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Date: 2003-05-19 07:16 am (UTC)
msilverstar: (aragorn close)
From: [personal profile] msilverstar
You sound great, happy and rejuvenated! It's lovely to have you back, and I'm waiting for the Karl/Dom with bated breath. My recs are in my LJ...

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Date: 2003-05-20 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Thank you! I've seen your recs and read 3/4 of them. And Karl/Dom: well, Part One is with beta so I wait myself with bated breath.

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Date: 2003-05-19 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabbyhope.livejournal.com
Welcome back! *throws confetti*

New Yorkers are good looking. Americans, on the whole, I found very good looking. Primarily, because you see so many different *types* of good looks: white, black, Asian, mixed, the lot.

mm, New York. I miss it. Did you stay primarily in Manhattan? Did you venture into the little holes in the walls? Best thing in the world is to go to the Bronx in the dead heat of summer, sit on a stoop eating a pizza (NOTHING compares to NYC pizza!!!), and waiting for the Italian icy man who doesn't speak a lick of English to come by. My dad's entire side of the family live up there. I used to threaten my mom that I'd hitchhike all of the way to the Bronx when I was little. heh.

And as for good looking Americans, well. You didn't come Down South. oh dear.

er, yes. Done rambling in your journal, now. But I'm glad you're back! And I'm very very glad that you enjoyed yourself (even without the phone, meep!), and yes, Karl/Dom, please oh please. ;) *hugsandmorehugs*

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Date: 2003-05-20 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Did you stay primarily in Manhattan?
No, I was in fact staying with friends in Brooklyn which was very interesting because I had never been to Brooklyn before, and I also visited a very good friend in Queens -- but I did spend a good deal wandering about the grid of Manhattan as well.

Did you venture into the little
holes in the walls?

What are these??

Welcome back! *throws confetti*
This is so funny, considering I am now further away from you than I was when I was in the US. It just goes to show that the internet *is* a location. We think of it as such. So even if I'd been in your home town, if I hadn't seen you and not been online, it would have seemed as if I'd gone "away".

And as for good looking Americans, well. You didn't come Down South.
Well, you're there, aren't you? Heh.

As for Karl/Dom, bane of my life: part one is with beta. ;-)

Re:

Date: 2003-05-20 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabbyhope.livejournal.com
Oo, Brooklyn and Queens, very cool. Nice of you to have friends in the area. Someone says they're going to New York, and I can't help but imagine them wandering about Manhattan in a daze with their camera and knapsack. It happens. ;)

Holes in the wall? Oh, those are those little establishments that the tourists never go to, but all of the locals flock to. The "Jim's Cafe"s in the back alley that are fabulous, and only get costumers because of word of mouth. The best places to shop, eat, whatever. That's what my mom calls them, a hole in the wall. They're everywhere, but in the big cities, they're priceless.

And, heh, you're right. You're only back because we can actually "talk" to you... location means nothing, really. Us strange internet junkies.

And as for good looking Americans, well. You didn't come Down South.
Well, you're there, aren't you? Heh.


oh, hush! *grins anyway* Besides, I refuse to admit I'm Down South. It's a huge ass place, and by country I mean dirt roads and pick-up trucks and mullets and tractors riding down the "highways" and cows and pigs and horses and cilos and tabacco farmers and dueling banjos and bad teeth and cash crops and people who spit and wear big ole belt buckles. That's Down South. shudder.

As for Karl/Dom, bane of my life: part one is with beta. ;-)

ahem. Excuse me while I squee aloud and frighten the family dog. *squee* (and, hey, who're you calling bane???)

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-21 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
I reserve the right to call Karl and Dom banes and blights of my sleepless nights! And, bane to myself that I am, I have already started tinkering with stupid Part 1 even though it's not even back from the beta yet (ack, don't *tell* her).

Re:

Date: 2003-05-21 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabbyhope.livejournal.com
Ooooooo!

*drools*

Wantses.

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Date: 2003-05-19 09:02 am (UTC)
ext_17864: (Default)
From: [identity profile] cupiscent.livejournal.com
It goes to show that a man in the flesh is always to be preferred to a drool object on the screen.

God yes.

Drool objects are rather distant and then there's the way the video cassette digs into your ribs when you roll over in the middle of the night...

The invention of DVD was a godsend.

S'lovely to have you back.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
*snorts*

Speaking of video cassettes: the hubster interestingly downloaded porn movies in my absence. He *paid* for them. If anyone in authority ever needs to requisition my hard drive, it may well scupper all our careers for ever.... From having been a work tool, my Imac has long ago been transformed into a tool of sin.

*glomps you*

Date: 2003-05-19 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightest-blue.livejournal.com
Welcome back! Sounds like you had a wonderful time. Next time, come to the West Coast and stay with me!

And you sound happy- Yay!

Re: *glomps you*

Date: 2003-05-20 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
I did have a wonderful time, thank you, although the first few days I was still raw with depression -- but seeing my friends again was a real balm. Also, just getting away and being in a (for me) very exotic place like South Bend, Indiana.

West Coast? West Coast? Why do I always picture you on the East Coast?? But you are right, of course, Oregon is West Coast -- my grasp of US geography is clearly shaky. It sort of *sounds* East Coast...

And yes, I would love to visit the West Coast. I lived in Berkeley for a year, and I have a very good friend there, plus online friends in Portland, Oregon (now that I know where it is!) and L.A. (Jenn). Plus I just love the landscape of the West Coast. I love, love, love the Pacific. I think I was imprinted with it when I lived in Australia.

Re: *glomps you*

Date: 2003-05-21 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightest-blue.livejournal.com
Hmm, why do you picture me on the East Coast? *ponders* Although I could see myself in a place like Maine. *g* Even though I've never been there, I imagine it to be somewhat Oregon-ish.

And if you love the Pacific, I'm just over an hour away, and the Oregon coast is particularly rugged and beautiful and cold. Come anytime!

Re: *glomps you*

Date: 2003-05-22 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Oh I want to come so much!

And I could see *you*!!

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-19 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azewewish.livejournal.com
*hugs*

Good to have you back!

*cracks whip on the Karl/Dom*

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Date: 2003-05-20 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
I'm glad you're always cracking the whip (heh, you know what I like, eh?) but in this case it's actually not even necessary because part one is *with the beta*!

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Date: 2003-05-19 10:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blithesea.livejournal.com
Welcome back! *hugs you*

and eep! I thought you'd be gone till the 22nd! *hurries to the post office*

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Well, I thought I'd be gone longer but I got homesick for my little boys and changed my ticket for 160 dollars. So, yes, I snuck back early. The boys nearly had a heart attack at the surprise return of their mother; it completely threw them.

*licks lips in Orli-tongue-anticipation*

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Date: 2003-05-19 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viva-gloria.livejournal.com
oh, welcome, welcome, invigorated* Lobelia! How delightful to have you back, and I'm extremely happy to hear that you too were transformed by a trip to the colonies land of the free.

K/D Epic! Epic! *whimper*



* not necessarily having to do with Mr Mortensen

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com

Gloria Mundi (viva_gloria) wrote,

oh, welcome, welcome, invigorated* Lobelia! How delightful to have you back, and I'm
extremely happy to hear that you too were transformed by a trip to the colonies land of
the free.

K/D Epic! Epic! *whimper*



* not necessarily having to do with Mr Mortensen


*snort* No, I suppose a better word would be 'infeminated' or whatever the non-masculine equivalent is (I *could* now scuttle downstairs to get my Latin textbook but it seems excessive.... Engynecated??)

And when you say "you too": are you the other person? And how were you in-whatever-ated?

K/D: part one is with beta!

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-21 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viva-gloria.livejournal.com
And when you say "you too": are you the other person? And how were you in-whatever-ated?

Colorado at Christmas illuminated the gloom enough for me to get through a very bad patch ... though I do rather wish it was closer, and I could escape on a regular basis!

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-21 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Travel is a great infibrillator but it does get rather expensive (and also slightly ridiculous) if used as a substitute for more dependable therapy....

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-21 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viva-gloria.livejournal.com
Oh yes: certainly not recommended in terms of therapy! But sometimes it's good to step back from 'normal' life and see which problems remain (i.e. the hard-wired ones). Also, Colorado was sunny and I'm finding that, more and more, my mood is influenced by the weather. (Of course I can still be whiny when the sun shines and ebullient in the rain, but just being out of doors with sunlight hitting my skin seems to make a massive difference, psychologically).

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-22 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
God, yes, I am a slave to the sun. When it's not there I always forget what a difference it makes, and when it comes back, I forget that there can ever be anything else.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-19 01:54 pm (UTC)
ext_42507: (psycho cat)
From: [identity profile] ia-ne.livejournal.com
You're back! How fehbulous!

re: juicy news: *cough*woodcest*cough*

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Woodcest? *Woodcest*? What is that? Is that some sort of incest fic involving Elijah??? Link!!!!

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 05:37 am (UTC)
ext_42507: (tiger)
From: [identity profile] ia-ne.livejournal.com
Well, here's one: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jubilancy/8506.html#cutid1 (the FAQ is not available, and I can't remember how to link properly...) There was quite some excitement, but I think it cooled down by now. Actually, the fic (and at least one other that the author took down later) was only a reaction to pictures of Elijah and Hannah hugging and smoking together, you can find them at the Bagendinn, I think.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Ooh, I'm glad you recced this, I just went and read. It's nice and punchy and very wicked. But I fail to see how it's at all incestuous as it's *Dom*/Hannah, isn't it? But who knows, the datalounge gang has maybe discovered a secret congenital link between those two...?

How is this controversial, though? Seems a harmless piece of 3some het to me. And all the comments are benign.

But heh, I've evidently missed *something*.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jubilancy.livejournal.com
eee! I was recc'd. My god, thank you.

I never actually saw any backlash outside of the, uh, DLR crew. Was there that much? ([livejournal.com profile] lobelia321 is right; this wasn't very controversial.) I did see the author of the other woodcest fic took it down, so maybe someone was nasty to her?

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 03:14 pm (UTC)
ext_42507: (shine)
From: [identity profile] ia-ne.livejournal.com
Now I'm a bit embarrassed because I didn't give feedback on your fic but recced it...Will do that in a minute!

Anyway :) When I said excitement I didn't mean that in a negative way, although I saw quite a few opinions that weren't pro woodcest. But they were mostly along the lines of 'I won't read it but it's okay that it's there', and everyone agreed to disagree. I dearly hope nobody was nasty to the other author, she certainly didn't mention it.

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Date: 2003-05-19 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheldrake.livejournal.com
My son had warned me off West-Philadelphia (he gleans this from the opening song of "Fresh Prince of Bel Air")

Oh, thank you. I'd just got that song out of my head.
...Ermmm, and your serious point was very good too. *g*

Welcome back, dear. Your trip sounded lovely.

:)

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
I know; that song is a terrible earworm, and of course as soon as I was in Philadelphia, it invaded my brain! But who says that afternoon TV sitcoms aren't educational? (Well, I suppose, no one would say that. How *could* one...?)

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Date: 2003-05-19 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnysquee.livejournal.com
boo-yah to the 'fiendishly expensive' internet places and the no mobile phone. but yay! it sounds like you had a decent trip. it is always lovely to meet up with old friends, nothing like talking and reminiscing.

i hope your research also went splendidly.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
I have a question about your icon caption: What is "Rede"? Or who?

And thank you. Yes, it was a lovely trip. The research not as plentiful as on my previous trip but the stuff I did see was very intense and very important. American museums are very different from European ones, more based on the tastes of individual collectors than on nation-building state visions.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnysquee.livejournal.com
the quote is actually from LOTR. Legolas says it when the three hunters were running over the plains of Rohan, and Gimli and Aragorn were starting to lose hope. 'rede,' according to the Merriam-Webster's Dictionary, means the following:

Pronunciation: 'rEd
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English -- more at READ
Date: before 12th century
1 dialect : to give counsel to : ADVISE
2 dialect : INTERPRET, EXPLAIN

so, i am assuming Legolas thinks some sort of information or instructions regarding their situation will be revealed in the morning.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Am impressed.

Btw, are you able to update your journal right now? I keep getting the message 'temporarily unavailable'. All I can access is the comments function.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnysquee.livejournal.com
i just posted a test for you without a hitch. and i see you have posted too. i think lj is undergoing one of it's repairs/updates thingys, so there have been problems all over. some people's lj's have changed colour, which is mildly amusing :-D

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
LJs changing colours at will?

As you say, I *am* amused but should I be thinking about such trivia?

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnysquee.livejournal.com
definitely NOT when you have Karl/Dom to work on!

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-20 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Oh, fuck, caught out.

See, I spent (wasted?) all day re-reading Part One of Karl/Dom. I did not revise Part Two.

*hangs head in shame*

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-21 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hjartad.livejournal.com

Philadelphia: interesting but shocking amount of slum. My son had warned me off West-Philadelphia (he gleans this from the opening song of "Fresh Prince of Bel Air") and true, it was drive-thru country: you wouldn't want to get out. Beautiful old buildings but totally, and I mean totally, run down. All of this goes on for acres and acres. Particularly shocking: it's all black. Class is divided along racial lines.

Heh. So you've been to my birthplace. Good ol' Philly. Only lived there until I was five or so, then grew up in an all-white neighborhood, went to an all-white Catholic School, and basically only had white friends. Of course, I was the freak wearing a Pink Floyd t-shirt when I went back for a family reunion, but, I digress.

Sounds like you had an interesting time, and welcome back. :)

Karl/Dom! Yay!

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-22 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
So you're a Philadelphian!! I didn't know that. *g* Well, now I've been there! It was actually very interesting architecturally, and historically -- my friends drove me round lots of places, incl. Frank Lloyd's Wright's synagogue, but I am too European to be able to take all those slums in my stride.

Where did you move to after you turned 5?

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-23 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hjartad.livejournal.com
I moved to Wilmington, Delaware... the biggest city in the 2nd smallest state. About a 15 minute drive from Philly.

It's pretty sad that I grew up there, but never really experienced the wonderful architecture and history.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-23 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
I came through Wilmington on the train!

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-27 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hjartad.livejournal.com
See anything exciting there? Trees? Grass? Dilapitated buildings? The train just happens to run through the worse part of the city.

But every city has a slum, doesn't it? Although I can't speak for European cities.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-05-29 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
But every city has a slum, doesn't it?

But no! That's what I found shocking (this time round) about the US, I suppose: first, the fact that every city does indeed seem to have a slum (and that the slums seem all to be organised along racial lines: they're all black), and second, that people seem to accept the fact of the slum as they accept the fact of bad weather. It's just part of city life.

In Philadelphia, I was quite shocked at what I perceive to be complete lack of civic responsibility on the part of town government. To just let miles of good real estate go to waste like that, not to take care of the building fabric of the city.

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Date: 2003-06-02 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hjartad.livejournal.com
that people seem to accept the fact of the slum as they accept the fact of bad weather. It's just part of city life.

Exactly. And that's so sad.

I went to college in Baltimore for three years, in an 'upscale' part of the neighborhood. Well, it was an upper-class street, with beautiful mansions and the like. Oh, but one block to the south, and it was gangland. And that was where the pubs were, of course. So students were constantly getting raped, mugged, shot at, etc about a block away from the school. Incredibly strange, but it was basically common knowledge that you didn't walk down THAT street alone or at night. And was anything being done about it? Nope. It's just 'that bad area'.

Unrelated note:

Orli icon! Hee.

I don't know if you read loaded magazine. Well, there's a little blurb in there (and a nice picture) about the hair products that he uses. Mud styling something or other. And it mentioned his naturally curly hair. I just had to grin at the thought of men reading that and putting down Orli!hair products on their shopping lists. Ha.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-06-03 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
*falls down*

Orli hair products? Mud style? *speechless*

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