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Apr. 23rd, 2004
Second person pov
Apr. 23rd, 2004 08:51 pmSecond person pov (you) is a strange beast.
( English and German you )
Deixis
Deixis refers to the utterance itself. Deictic words are words that make sense only within the context of an utterance. 'Dominic' is not a deictic word because it refers to a particular person or a particular fictional construct, no matter what the context. 'I' and 'you', 'here' and 'there', 'tomorrow' and 'yesterday' are all deictic words because they make no sense outside the context of a specific utterance. If I'm speaking to Dominic, the 'you' is Dominic and the 'I' is me. When he answers, the 'you' switches to me and the 'I' becomes him. I say 'here', and I mean my desk in Cambridge. You say 'here' and you mean something completely elsewhere.
Now I hadn't thought about this aspect of second person pov when I wrote my narratological analysis of fanfic. But it occurred to me this morning in t'reference library, and then I was reminded by reading![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
azewewish's Epilogue which is written in second person pov. Perhaps an additional reason why second person is more prevalent in slash than it is in origfic is that it has this reciprocal, interactive possibility built into it. Because every 'you' could potentially flip around and become an 'I'. I noted this in my analysis, how easily I slipped into reading the 'you' as 'I', and now I'm starting to think that the deictic quality of the 'you' is responsible for that.
How weird and wonderful is language. Some words have definite and fixed signifieds, but some simply don't. I think Emile Benveniste first wrote about deictic words but I haven't read any -- has anyone else?
( English and German you )
Deixis
Deixis refers to the utterance itself. Deictic words are words that make sense only within the context of an utterance. 'Dominic' is not a deictic word because it refers to a particular person or a particular fictional construct, no matter what the context. 'I' and 'you', 'here' and 'there', 'tomorrow' and 'yesterday' are all deictic words because they make no sense outside the context of a specific utterance. If I'm speaking to Dominic, the 'you' is Dominic and the 'I' is me. When he answers, the 'you' switches to me and the 'I' becomes him. I say 'here', and I mean my desk in Cambridge. You say 'here' and you mean something completely elsewhere.
Now I hadn't thought about this aspect of second person pov when I wrote my narratological analysis of fanfic. But it occurred to me this morning in t'reference library, and then I was reminded by reading
azewewish's Epilogue which is written in second person pov. Perhaps an additional reason why second person is more prevalent in slash than it is in origfic is that it has this reciprocal, interactive possibility built into it. Because every 'you' could potentially flip around and become an 'I'. I noted this in my analysis, how easily I slipped into reading the 'you' as 'I', and now I'm starting to think that the deictic quality of the 'you' is responsible for that.How weird and wonderful is language. Some words have definite and fixed signifieds, but some simply don't. I think Emile Benveniste first wrote about deictic words but I haven't read any -- has anyone else?
FIC: When the Cock Crowed (DM/OB) NC-17
Apr. 23rd, 2004 10:12 pmI went to lotr_rps, a yahoo list I haven't been to in ages, and all I found were wips! There was not a single quicky fic. So I wrote one myself.
FIC: When the Cock Crowed
Author: Lobelia
Category: Lunacy.
Rating: A lunatic NC-17.
Fandom: Lotr slash
Pairing: Dom/Orli/Cock
Summary: Dom's cock is big.
Warning: Yes.
Length: Short.
Disclaimers: This refers to some fictional characters called Dom Lamont and Orli Cunningham. It has nothing to do with rl actors. The cock, however, is real but no disrespect or copyright infringement is intended.
( One morning Dom woke up and his cock had swollen to gigantic proportions. )
FIC: When the Cock Crowed
Author: Lobelia
Category: Lunacy.
Rating: A lunatic NC-17.
Fandom: Lotr slash
Pairing: Dom/Orli/Cock
Summary: Dom's cock is big.
Warning: Yes.
Length: Short.
Disclaimers: This refers to some fictional characters called Dom Lamont and Orli Cunningham. It has nothing to do with rl actors. The cock, however, is real but no disrespect or copyright infringement is intended.
( One morning Dom woke up and his cock had swollen to gigantic proportions. )