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It's that season again. That season when women of the Anglo-Saxon world shave off, wax or otherwise pluck out their body hairs (not on their heads, I should add; most women in the Commonwealth and the US of A tend to keep their head hair on).

Now, when I was living in Australia (1970s and early 80s)where the plucking and the waxing was in bigtime I never took part. I was contrary, I was stubborn, I took a feminist line, I was lazy, I wore overalls with my father's shirts and was generally contra-contra-contra (the teenage version of Jed/Kiran, if you like).

Then I lived in Germany where, in the 1980s, not many women shaved. So it was hair and don't care, and I didn't. Until I got contrary again and started to shave simply *because* everyone else around me wasn't. Also, some women were doing it in order to be cool and 'American', and I wanted to be cool and American, too.

Then I moved to America (United States of), and all the women were eggs. I immediately became so contrary that I left all my bodily nature to grow wild and haywire. I did not de-hairify once during my sojourn there, and it did not make me any less attractive to the sex I was then interested in (on the contrary, omg).

So now, middle-aged and *sigh*, respectable and sort of keen to fit in and not be noticed, and *especially* keen not to be *mocked* by students, I do do the shaving thing in a desultory way and only when the sun's out.

Well. The sun's out. Bugger.

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Date: 2004-04-26 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnysquee.livejournal.com
i've never shaved. i pluck instead. but being chinese, i don't have much hair on my legs or arms and thus get away with not doing much for months on end.

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Date: 2004-04-26 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabbyhope.livejournal.com
I dislike you.

Damn my abnormally hairy gene pool.

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Date: 2004-04-26 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnysquee.livejournal.com
if it's any consolation, i have a prominent and dark moustache, which is never a good thing being a girl and all, which means i have to pluck every third day or so.

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Date: 2004-04-26 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabbyhope.livejournal.com
Okay, now I feel better.

Though I did inherit the incredibly evil uni-brow from my dad, which results in plucking constantly, as well. So I suppose we're even.

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Date: 2004-04-26 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnysquee.livejournal.com
oh dear - uni-brow. well, you do a very good plucking job, if that's any consolation.

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Date: 2004-04-26 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
I have uni-brow but I never do anything to it. I live the Frida Kahlo / Brezhnev way. I do wear spectacles that obscure the unibrow somewhat.

How does one pluck it? And does it make a difference? Do you look *better*? I think I plucked mine twice sometime in the 1980s.

Hm.

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Date: 2004-04-26 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cangetmad.livejournal.com
Yes, boo for the sun for that reason (and that reason only, given that I have the sun-worshipping disposition of a lizard). I didn't shave at all for about five years, but started again and have always felt vague feministic guilt about it. Except! Now I shave my legs more to show off the tattoo I have on my left leg, and so I feel like a big rebel again, self-deluded creature that I am.

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Date: 2004-04-26 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Hahahha! The combo tattoo/hair hadn't occurred to me but oh, the permutations!

Speaking of chests: I have hair there, too. (Not that you were but lots of people have tattoos on their chests and I was just imagining them all disappearing, like daffs among weeds.)

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Date: 2004-04-26 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ios-pillow-book.livejournal.com
Well. The sun's out. Bugger.

*laughs* That sums it up perfectly. I hate shaving dearly, nevertheless I do it. Not to be not mocked because over here people still don't care that much, but because *shrugs shoulders* I think it simply looks better.

Middle-aged and respectable ... *sporfles* ... that is such a funny concept. I don't feel I have to look respectable to be respected.

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Date: 2004-04-26 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Oh, I do. Hence, perhaps, reason why I've been in counselling. Hmph.

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Date: 2004-04-26 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badgermonkey.livejournal.com
Ugh. Hair. I own a pair of tweezers that cost TWELVE POUNDS, such is my devotion to banishing the stuff. (And every time I look at them, I think "TWELVE POUNDS!", but it was worth it.)

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Date: 2004-04-26 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tvillingar.livejournal.com
What the heck in your tweezers can cost TWELVE POUNDS?

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Date: 2004-04-27 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badgermonkey.livejournal.com
They are like the precision engineering of tweezers. The plucking is good at the Demelza house.

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Date: 2004-04-26 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Twelve pounds! *falls over* You *egg*! And why tweezers and not some wax thingy?

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Date: 2004-04-27 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badgermonkey.livejournal.com
For my beautiful beautiful groomed eyebrows, of course. Don't tell me you didn't fall over in shock at the mere sight of them? I spend a lot of time with my tweezers to elimate hideous inherited overgrown eyebrowness.

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Date: 2004-04-28 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Omg! I *did* fall over in shock at the mere sight of them! I thought they were *real*!

Please, *goes down on bended knee*, tell me how to achieve this?

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Date: 2004-05-03 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badgermonkey.livejournal.com
My eyebrows are real! OK, so they should meet in the middle, but I can live without that.

Plucking eyebrows is quite simple when you get used to it. First of all you need to decide what needs plucking. So, to start with, you take a pencil (no, not to draw on yourself.) You hold it so it runs from the edge of your nose to the inner edge of your eye. This is where your eyebrow should start. Then from the edge of your nose to the outer edge of your eye. This is where it should end. Do it for both eyes, then you know what can go from between your eyes. From the centre you can take everything out, as long as you don't go past this imaginary line, or you'll look a bit bald.

To shape them, DO NOT PLUCK ABOVE YOUR EYEBROWS! This will change the shape more dramatically. I mean, I do it, but I've been plucking them since I was 11 so I'm a bit of an expert. Just concentrate on getting rid of strays underneath first, then look carefully at the natural line. I find the parts nearest the centre can usually lose a bit of width to look more polished. But it's better to be cautious at first so as not to be permanently 'surprised'.

You need good tweezers (not necessarily £12 ones) and lots of patience. And a high pain threshold. (Numbing it with an icecube in a tissue is supposed to help, but I've never tried it. A magnifying mirror is useful, too.

And that's more than you ever wanted to know about plucking your eyebrows!

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Date: 2004-05-03 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
And that's more than you ever wanted to know about plucking your eyebrows!

On the contrary: it is exactly as much as I ever wanted to know about plucking my eyebrows!

Thank you most kindly! I have already started to do the measuring but then we had dinner guests so I had to run off, bushy-browed. Any particular reason why one must measure with a pencil?

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Date: 2004-05-04 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badgermonkey.livejournal.com
Pencil, pen, chopstick, toothbrush handle; if it's long and thing, it'll do.

I thought, oh, I could give more specific advice, let me just look at your pic to see what your eyebrows look like, then spent, ooh, a minute peering at a picture of Dom holding a fish before it dawned on me that that was not, in fact, you, and would not help at all.

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Date: 2004-05-04 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
*has helpless laughing attack*

As far as regards me: think Frida.

Except I hide the Kahlo-brow behind spectacles.

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Date: 2004-04-26 05:57 pm (UTC)
lazulus: (mermaid)
From: [personal profile] lazulus
I spent years being furry and proud. Then I lost loads of weight, started wearing skirts [knee length!!!] and caved to my own internal pressure. Now, like you, I shave when skirt season arrives.

Still don't shave my armpits, though! Go me!

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Date: 2004-04-26 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Still don't shave my armpits, though!
I still remember a certain young person asking about this aspect of your personality...!!

*giggles*

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Date: 2004-04-27 06:52 am (UTC)
lazulus: (dork)
From: [personal profile] lazulus
OMG!! I had completely forgotten that! *laughs*

Bless his little cotton socks! And wasn't your response somethng along the lines of, "We really must have the talk about appropriate topics of conversation." hahahahaha

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Date: 2004-04-27 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightest-blue.livejournal.com
Shamefully conformist in this respect. When in the US, I shave all year round. But in Germany in the 80's, it was hairiness all the way! But I'm constantly picking at my eyebrows. They're huge!

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Date: 2004-04-28 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
I have monobrow but I don't know how to pluck.

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Date: 2004-04-29 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightest-blue.livejournal.com
It's not so difficult, as long as you don't try to do too much at once. but it hurts! So I put it off as long as possible- go for the Brooke Shields look circa 1982.

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