i have a handy dandy little book called elements of style by strunk and white for my grammar foibles. the thing is, there is a lot of slang out there which i pick up bits of which i'm sure i'm using erroneously.
i'm friending that comm - thanks for the pluggery.
well, considering that the community owner managed to have a grammar mistake in her first entry (the whom issue that's now corrected) and erroneously claimed that affect can never be a noun, i'd be a bit careful :-)
I don't know what Strunk & White is but this community is a) soothing (as I know the stuff already) b) presented in chunks (somebody else is doing the scheduling hence no effort on my part; see point a) c) Australian (is Strunk & W Australian? Am married to an Australian, after all, and went to high school there.) d) interactive (I get to correct posts!)
well, i think you may be enjoying it for reasons not necessarily intended by the author :-) [considering point (a) and (d)]
is australian grammar actually different??? i mean, there are a couple of past tense differences between BE and AE, but i didn't think actual grammar would differ...
I don't know about actual grammar differences but there are certainly lexical differences and differences in usage and colloquialisms. And simply knowing it comes from Australia!! Hearing the accent in my mind's ear... :-) I just get a bit tired of the Britpicking/Americanisms duality that seems to go in every bloody fandom except lotrps where the fact that you have Australians and New Zealanders offers a wonderful route out because nobody bloody knows about those ideolects enough to bother starting a rant. Although blythely might, if pressed... *g*
oh, i can understand that...i really don't care one way or another as long as it's consistent and the grammar's correct (or purposefully and correctly incorrect :-)
but yes, i can only imagine feeling left out from the circum-atlantic wars :-)
e) makes me feel superior. (I know, small step to 'makes me feel annoyed' but hey, I've only known about this community for about one hour and it's not nearly as annoying as slashforpenisbearers.)
:D few things are as annoying...and i'm all for feeling superior!!!
seriously, though, i find it somewhat unsettling if you consider her audience not to be us but to be unsuspecting grammar impaired folks who actually believe her when she says she knows what she's doing...
if you only saw it today, you missed the beautiful "For those of you whom have studied English grammar in the past, or even a foreign language, this one may seem a little basic." that graced her first entrey for several days...
if you wanna see un grammar posts, you might think about checking out gwyn_r's usage posts here. Her entries are smart, teach most of us in the field something, and in the comments the finer points of disagreement (such as the rules of possessive s in cases like isis, sirius, jesus, and oz) get discussed.
I am a grammar pedant. But some things I can indulge and forgive and others I get into a screeching rage about. Whom is more in the screeching rage territory. As is the misuse of him and I. (This is a photo of my husband and I. -- *has screeching rage until goes blue in face*) As does lay and lie (although in fandom I've had to grit my teeth about that one because there's such a lot of it about, given the territory and all). But other errors don't bother me. Can't think of them now, heh.
i have certain comma rules i'm really anal about...and yes, whom drives me nuts...then again, we have kind of an advantage...i never understand why english native speakers have such difficulties with cases :D
argh...off tyo do more cleaning...my mom'll be here in less than an hour (or rather, i nned to get my wheeziong malaised body and my kids into the car to pick them up)
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Date: 2004-10-18 03:23 pm (UTC)i'm friending that comm - thanks for the pluggery.
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Date: 2004-10-18 04:10 pm (UTC)yeah for strunk&white, though :-)
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Date: 2004-10-18 05:48 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2004-10-18 09:15 pm (UTC)it's a very concise, beautifully written, slim volume of at times prefering slightly antiquated usage. it's AE but most of the grammar should hold...
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Date: 2004-10-18 08:56 pm (UTC)a) soothing (as I know the stuff already)
b) presented in chunks (somebody else is doing the scheduling hence no effort on my part; see point a)
c) Australian (is Strunk & W Australian? Am married to an Australian, after all, and went to high school there.)
d) interactive (I get to correct posts!)
So do Strunk & White do any of the above??
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Date: 2004-10-18 09:07 pm (UTC)well, i think you may be enjoying it for reasons not necessarily intended by the author :-) [considering point (a) and (d)]
is australian grammar actually different??? i mean, there are a couple of past tense differences between BE and AE, but i didn't think actual grammar would differ...
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Date: 2004-10-18 09:14 pm (UTC)What is BE and AE?
I don't know about actual grammar differences but there are certainly lexical differences and differences in usage and colloquialisms. And simply knowing it comes from Australia!! Hearing the accent in my mind's ear... :-) I just get a bit tired of the Britpicking/Americanisms duality that seems to go in every bloody fandom except lotrps where the fact that you have Australians and New Zealanders offers a wonderful route out because nobody bloody knows about those ideolects enough to bother starting a rant. Although
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Date: 2004-10-18 09:21 pm (UTC)but yes, i can only imagine feeling left out from the circum-atlantic wars :-)
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Date: 2004-10-18 09:05 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-10-18 09:13 pm (UTC)seriously, though, i find it somewhat unsettling if you consider her audience not to be us but to be unsuspecting grammar impaired folks who actually believe her when she says she knows what she's doing...
if you only saw it today, you missed the beautiful "For those of you whom have studied English grammar in the past, or even a foreign language, this one may seem a little basic." that graced her first entrey for several days...
if you wanna see un grammar posts, you might think about checking out gwyn_r's usage posts here. Her entries are smart, teach most of us in the field something, and in the comments the finer points of disagreement (such as the rules of possessive s in cases like isis, sirius, jesus, and oz) get discussed.
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Date: 2004-10-18 09:16 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-10-18 09:23 pm (UTC)argh...off tyo do more cleaning...my mom'll be here in less than an hour (or rather, i nned to get my wheeziong malaised body and my kids into the car to pick them up)