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Thank you, everyone who did my teapot exercise a few days ago. I thought you'd be interested in knowing the 'right' answer and finding out when these pots were designed and by whom, and why I chose them. This was really helpful as a dry run for this seminar. It's the first time I'm teaching design, and I'm really a bit at sea. At least, having cut, pasted and img-src'ed these teapots so often, I now know them off by heart!!

Your own answers were even more interesting than the 'correct' sequence, as I discuss below the cut, *g*.



1) Photo F: John Chandler Moore, service, 1850.
Silver tea and coffee service, USA. Tray by james Dixon & Sons of Sheffield.


2) Photo D: Josef Hoffmann, tea service, c.1906
Style: Wiener Werkstätte (Vienna Workshop)


3) Photo C: Peter Behrens, teakettle, 1909
Style: Deutscher Werkbund.


4) Photo G: Marianne Brandt, tea maker, 1928/30
Style: Bauhaus.


5) Photo B: Rosenthal, tea pot, c.1937
'Schönheit der Arbeit' (Beauty in Work). Style: National Socialist. (This is a Nazi teapot and has a swastika on its base.)


Detail of swastika on base:


6) Photo A: Harold Holdcroft, teapot, 1962
'Old Country Roses' teapot. Royal Albert (Royal Doulton). Style: Nostalgia/heritage.


7) Photo F: Robert Venturi, tea set, 1986
'Village' tea set. Style: Post-Modernism


Your answers were very interesting. Nobody got it 'right'. But that doesn't matter as much as what it reveals about everybody's assumptions about stylistic progression. Some people seemed to assume that the more ornate, the older something is, so they placed the two decorative, floral ones, the Moore and the Rosenthal, at the beginning (I deliberately put the Old Country Roses teapot in there, to confuse expectations that styles progress in a smooth, predictable fashion). Other people seemed to assume that simple shapes were older and placed the Nazi teapot at the beginning of the series. Others put the Bauhaus teapot together with the Nazi teapot, and yet others put the Bauhaus teapot as the most recent, as the most 'futuristic' looking, perhaps -- which goes to show that some design is either timeless or newly relevant.

Anyway, thank you everyone for participating! I will let you know how this exercise went in class. If it's half as interesting as you lot made it, I'll be happy. :-)

The reason I chose these:
1) The Chandler Moore one as an example of Victorian eclecticism and historicism (pseudo-Rococo) (although, strictly speaking, it's not Victorian but American), the kind of style that the later generations rejected.

2) The Hoffmann as an example of Vienne Workshop design (the topic of the students' seminar in 2 weeks' time) and of early modernist clean-ness of line. Hoffmann's chum, the architect Adolf Loos, coined the famous dictum: 'Ornament is crime.' So this is the anti-Chandler Moore style!

3) The Behrens is almost contemporaneous with the Hoffmann, and I just love it. Behrens designed this kettle in a variety of modules so that it was easy to mass-produce but at the same time give consumers 'choice'. So that you could order one of four basic shapes in one of four basic finishes.


4) The Brandt I chose as an example of Bauhaus because Bauhaus design is so classic and so famous and the students will be doing it in week 4. Also, it's the only teapot I have here designed by a woman so I wanted it in there.

5) The Rosenthal I chose because the students will be doing 1930s dictator design in week 5, and it confused the notion of easy stylistic progression, and also alerts us to the fact that design is embedded in a social and political context. You cannot tell by the style, necessarily, what kind of society produced a thing. But this teapot is also a reaction against the Bauhaus and Hoffmann types of modernism; it looks more 'traditional' but also 'simple', so not ornate and pseudo-aristocratic. A pot for the 'people'.

6) I chose the Old Country Roses again to confound notions of straightforward stylistic evolution (because history hops about, it doesn't zoom forwards in a straight line) and also as an example of nostalgia / heritage design. This design continues to be very popular today.

7) I chose this as an example of post-modern design (Venturi was also the first po-mo architect). He designed this house for his mum:

It was, in the 1960s, one of the first houses to incorporate classical elements but in a playful way. In this teaset, Venturi's playing around with mimesis and literal images.

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Date: 2006-09-29 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheldrake.livejournal.com
Very interesting! I really like number 3 too. Country Roses - urk!

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Date: 2006-10-01 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Country Roses! Someone, can't remember who, spotted that this was a 20th C. nostalgia thingy but quite a few people placed it in the 19th century. It wants you to think that it is ye olde. Hah, but the 19th century was more modern than Country Roses!

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Date: 2006-10-01 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheldrake.livejournal.com
I didn't have time to do the exercise properly, but I sort of skimmed through it before I had to leave for work. I thought that one was probably 20th C. Got many of the others wrong though - never would have picked up on the Nazi pot!

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Date: 2006-10-02 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
They're sort of fun, aren't they? I've grown quite fond of my teapots. May make a teapot icon now.

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Date: 2006-09-30 12:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] giglet.livejournal.com
Oh, very cool! You just taught me a lot, and I appreciate that you had reasons for including each one (otherwise, the Royal Doulton would have felt like a bait-and-switch rather than making a point).

Did you intend to include a link for Venturi's house?

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Date: 2006-10-01 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Thank you! It is really kind of you to comment so nicely. I have been nervous about teaching this module, and what you said made me feel a whole lot better about it. I will remember this when doing the actual class and make sure I explain to students why I chose these examples (so they don't feel 'baited and switched'). :-)

Yes, I put a link to Venturi's house. Is it not visible??

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Date: 2006-10-02 01:21 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] giglet.livejournal.com
I can't see it. The text looks like this to me:

7) I chose this as an example of post-modern design (Venturi was also the first po-mo architect). He designed this house for his mum:

It was, in the 1960s, one of the first houses to incorporate classical elements but in a playful way. In this teaset, Venturi's playing around with mimesis and literal images.

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