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Boy/boy subplot from the German daytime soap 'Verbotene Liebe' (Forbidden Love), episode aired 3 April 2008:

(Our two boys have just been kissing in public.)

"Sag mal, bist du jetzt auch schwul?"

"Nein! Ich bin ganz einfach nur verliebt."

("Listen, are you too gay now?"

"No! I'm just simply in love.")




How slashy is that???

How often have you read that exact sentiment in a fic?!??

*doesn't know whether to die laughing or to hide after FOUR HOURS of watching Verbotene Liebe youtube clips on this pairing...*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hB2Ndp7dag&feature=PlayList&p=16E3CC04C5876E33&index=41

With English subtitles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPMz67ZAM6U&feature=related

Who knew that German could be so slashily sexy?? And here I was, thinking that the only times I was patriotic when eating German rye bread or following the World Cup. No! I've rediscovered my Germanic roots via daytime soaps!!

Actually, excuse me. Watching condensed soap plot is like eating 500 kilos of fairy floss all at once. I now feel slightly sick and heady and wobbly on my feet. Where is the real world? Why is nobody angsting for weeks over one kiss in my family?

A strange compulsion to write SpaceSoapAtlantis is nudging the back of my brain... *touches temples*

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Date: 2008-04-05 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anitac588.livejournal.com
A strange compulsion to write SpaceSoapAtlantis is nudging the back of my brain
Yes, yes, yes, do it, The Verbotene Liebe AU just calls for you to write it. :D

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Date: 2008-04-05 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
It totally does! And you're right, the entirety of Verbotene Liebe is an AU to reality.

What shall be the pairing, though???

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Date: 2008-04-05 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anitac588.livejournal.com
Well, it's about 10 hours since I've first heard of this soap, never mind that I've consummed vast numbers of clips on You Tube since then. So I'm not an expert.
BUT, I wouldn't mind seeing my fave pair Shep as Christian and Rodney as Oliver. Or vice versa.
As long as they get to pine, be in denial and subsequently have sex. I'm easy like that.

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Date: 2008-04-05 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Omg, you too?????? It was [livejournal.com profile] thelana who got me onto this, and I literally watched my first Olli/Christian clip last night at around 8 pm.

And then I couldn't stop.

Shep as Christian!! Interesting!!

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Date: 2008-04-06 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anitac588.livejournal.com
Shep as Christian!! Interesting!!
Well, I can imagine Rodney sending away Shep's application for flying school, you know?
Also, thanks to [livejournal.com profile] thelana, who graciously dropped by my LJ to give me link to the whole list of Verbotene Liebe clips, I now also know of Christian's past in the jail -- that fits quite nicely with Sheppard's character, don't you think, taking fall for someone else?
Somehow I picture Cadman as Olivia.

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Date: 2008-04-06 10:24 am (UTC)
ext_3626: (vl - oliver/christian)
From: [identity profile] frogspace.livejournal.com
I now also know of Christian's past in the jail -- that fits quite nicely with Sheppard's character

He went to jail to protect his father! *flails*

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Date: 2008-04-06 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anitac588.livejournal.com
Yes, need I say more?
Also, Christian is awfully clueless, like, Oliver has to spell it out for him -- after kissing him, pining, etc -- that he, Oliver, is inlove with him.

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anitac588.livejournal.com
Her or Vala, actually. Cannot imagine anyone else fitting into Olivia sparkling character from SG universe, and having nice, positive, ahem, chemistry with Rodney, do you?

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Well, there's always April Bingham... *gg*

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Date: 2008-04-07 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anitac588.livejournal.com
Hmm, true. But I'd have her as that Julia character? That falls for Olie before she sees him making out with another guy?

I somehow like the idea of Olie and Olivia being cusins. Just imagine Rodney's outrage at something Cadman or Vala does, I cannot believe we're related, or sth similar.

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Date: 2008-04-05 08:51 pm (UTC)
ext_3626: (vl - oliver/christian)
From: [identity profile] frogspace.livejournal.com
I hate you all! (Especially [livejournal.com profile] thelana and [livejournal.com profile] ninamalfoy) You are all way ahead of me!! *sobs*

I'm following the storyline via this playlist, the one with the blue on black English subtitles, and I don't dare to look for one with different subtitles or even *without* subtitles because what if I don't find the right clip where I left off?! Noooooooooo!!! (You should hear my squee noises. ^^°)

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Date: 2008-04-05 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Oh, look, I've hopped around between playlists in a panicked frenzy because I feared losing even one minute of plot.

img, the *squeeing*

I can't believe we're all doing this together! What madness! What shared madness!

What ep are you up to???? I've just finished. I'm up to 4.4.08 and totally exhausted.

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Date: 2008-04-05 09:25 pm (UTC)
ext_3626: (vl - oliver/christian)
From: [identity profile] frogspace.livejournal.com
Oh, look, I've hopped around between playlists in a panicked frenzy because I feared losing even one minute of plot.

I think it's almost a bit like RPF because their whole life is canon and we are just watching this one particular storyline. Which totally works! Except there are sometimes these flashes of "Jana is dead!" or "The powdered milk was spoiled!" that hint at *other* things that might be going, things (and people) we are not aware of because we don't watch their and their friends' life, we just watch the Oliver/Christian story. \o/

I can't believe we're all doing this together! What madness! What shared madness!

It's so much fun!! Did you watch the fanvids? That was the first thing I did. :D

What ep are you up to????

I'm up to...uh... Christian broke up with Coco because he couldn't stop thinking about kissing Oliver and he finds help on a gay website where he chats with this guy (Who happens to be Oliver! OMG! They don't know!) and he can tell him everything (Which is what brought Christian and Oliver in real life together too! Christian even told Oliver why he was in prison. The whole campfire scene... ♥). Right now Christian saw Oliver naked in the shower and he is all flustered and, and, and... *swoons*

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Date: 2008-04-05 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
And then he picks up the shaving cream instead of the deodorant! You've still got about 50 minutes ahead of you, I think, but you're getting there!

Fanvids? Rec two!

The experience of watching only the filleted C&O is very bizarre, lurching in and out of these disconnected and repetitious scenes. Where people die inexplicably or become drug addicts but we don't know why.

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Date: 2008-04-05 10:11 pm (UTC)
ext_3626: (vl - oliver/christian)
From: [identity profile] frogspace.livejournal.com
Olli mailed Chris his foto!!!!! OMG! The confrontation must be near! I need to... I need to take a deep breath before I continue or my heart will explode.

Fanvids? Rec two!

Take three. ;)
Edited Date: 2008-04-05 10:14 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-04-05 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Oh thank you! I especially liked the one by Stash1974! Brilliant.

So? What are you up to NOW?

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Date: 2008-04-06 10:23 am (UTC)
ext_3626: (vl - oliver/christian)
From: [identity profile] frogspace.livejournal.com
Ich bin durch!!!!!!!!!!1 ♥

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Yesss1! 111!! *punches air*

I bought two CDs today, Damien Rice and Sia, solely because their songs play during C&O Second Kiss (your icon) and The Kiss of 4.4.08. Daytime soaps guide my musical tastes!!

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:39 pm (UTC)
ext_3626: (vl - oliver/christian)
From: [identity profile] frogspace.livejournal.com
Yesss1! 111!! *punches air*

Already managed to infect other people here and here with the Ollian virus. I feel accomplished. :)

Daytime soaps guide my musical tastes!!

I was in popslash fandom, so I'm not really one to talk, but that's a scary thought. *hides her Amazon confirmation e-mails*

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Die wahre Frage ist eigentlich nur... brauchen wir eine LJ community? :D

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Date: 2008-04-06 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
omg YESSS

I was thinking about this only today. It is very odd that there isn't one already. To collect all the links together, and above all, all the people -- I've been journal-hopping and madly commenting in fellow sufferers fans and everyone duplicating everything.

But all those people on Gaytimesoaps blog and who post the clips? Are they LJ-type people? Are they men?

Are you going to make one?????????????

Also, I just watched several eps about Roman / Deniz. Quite absurd. But addictive, nonetheless. It seems to want to be more 'hard-hitting' than Verbotene Liebe. Hard-hitting meaning: we see blood! Hooded thugs with batons! Swish pans and fast zooms! And mention of erections.


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Date: 2008-04-06 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Nope. I'm not going to make one. Everything I touch dies. But if you make one, I'll be there and helping. I promise :D

BTW, you HAVE to come over here because we are eagerly plott Ollian AUs :D

But all those people on Gaytimesoaps blog and who post the clips? Are they LJ-type people? Are they men?

Gaytime who owns the blog is a guy. A German who moved to the US and now lives there. Ivan who uploads the videos is a guy and British I think. Nenna who does the subtitles is female and German. soapfan00038 who also uploads clips as ChristianandOliver I don't know, but I'm guessing they might be Dutch.

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Date: 2008-04-06 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
You were a popslasher! Hah! I should have known! I was never one myself, but all the best people were/are. Haha! You guys invented rps for the rest of us.


*throws some rps at you in icon*

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Date: 2008-04-07 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deutschtard.livejournal.com
i know a good set of subtitled ones on youtube that are waaaaay farther than medusajames's. :)

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Date: 2008-04-05 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tansu.livejournal.com
Oh my gosh, the women. Proper Monty Sues! Love it love it love it.

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Date: 2008-04-05 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
What women? The women who keep on walking in on them? The one in my icon? Mary Sues r us!!!

This is such madness.

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Date: 2008-04-06 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tansu.livejournal.com
Tante Charlie and cousin Olivia. "Monty" Sues because of Uncle Monty. "Oh, my boys, my boys"

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
*laughs very much*

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Date: 2008-04-05 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blithesea.livejournal.com
Oh my goodness! I had no idea! *gets popcorn*

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
It's a slippery slope of doom, my dear.

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rollina.livejournal.com
Well, now I'm probably gonna take a deeper look into German soaps. ^^

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
I took that look. And it spelled out DOOM. Daytime soap ate my soul! For about 28 hours of non-stop watching (well, the actual viewing time was around five hours, interspersed with things like sleeping and suchlike but ack).

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Date: 2008-04-06 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ort.livejournal.com
No, you are watching the wrong gay couple. For smoking hotness you need to be watchingDeniz and Roman.


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Date: 2008-04-06 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
As soon as Deniz gets his head out of Vanessa's ass :D

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
People, people!

I first had to finish Verbotene Liebe boys before I could possibly even contemplate other soaps. And that took an entire day!!! *iz ded*


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Date: 2008-04-06 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
I think Deniz/Roman has at the moment fewer summery video clips because the person who did them did a lot tigther editing. I know there is somebody trying to work their way up from the time when Deniz joined the show but I don't think that they are very far yet. However, the RTL official website lets you watch every single episode though if you really get addicted... LOL.

That said, Deniz is totally on my shitlist because he cheated on Roman with his (Deniz's) female best friend and told her that he was in love with her and only stayed with Deniz out of pity. Diediediediedie.

It's possible that they'll get together again in the future but, yeah, at the moment I'm really pissed at Deniz. However, their story is still worth watching. It's a lot less straightforward soapy than VL. I mean, it's still soapy and emotional, just not as simplistic with their clichees (so no mixed up chat partner identities and stuff like that).

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
I just watched that clip without the sound off and I'm not sure who's who. The one who doesn't want to be guy, is that Roman? And why does this clip include no boy/boy action? The clip makes it look as they are still very much in the denial stage.

Points for: hot getting out of the water together action; smoking looks across the pool; very pretty faces; nice touch with putting the towel on groin.

Points against: not enough kissing and fondling; Adidas bathing sandals; excessive hamminess and slapstick moments when he then runs away with the towel in front of his crotch and when the two anti-gay dudes 'catch' them with 'lube' (silly!)

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
There's definitely the sexxxor later. Check clips here. Deniz is the tall one.

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Date: 2008-04-06 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm way ahead of you, I've already found all these clips and am up to part IV... Doomed.

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Date: 2008-04-07 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ort.livejournal.com
I have faith that he will, and the writer's have suggested as such. And hopefully there will some more beautiful angst in his future as he realizes his mistake. The angst is hot, not as hot as Deniz and Roman making out but a close second.
Until then I kind of enjoy the little diva act of Roman's as he reminds Deniz at every turn just what he gave up; and how Deniz can't help but react.

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Date: 2008-04-07 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Yeah, but it's at least another month where for every DeRo drama we get sugary DeVa warbling. Besides Deniz is on my shitlist since the scene where he tried to pacify Vanessa by telling her that he loved her and was just staying with Roman out of pity. Even if he is just in denial I can still hate him for it.

Besides, what city are they supposed to live in anyway? Nobody can tell me that Roman is having such a hard time finding boyfriends that he needs to latch on to Deniz like that. Aren't there any other guys? Sheesh. It's not like they live in Hinterstubenbrun, Country Bumpkin County.

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobelia321.livejournal.com
Just watched this clip and yes, there is smoking hotness, especially when they both arise from the water together and the LOOKS across the pool.

However, then it all gets too slapsticky and hammed up when they are discovered in the shower room with the 'lube' and when the one guy runs off with the towel across his groin. I mean, it was a nice sexy touch showing him putting the towel there but then it gets hammered home too excessively. Also: the Adidas bathing sandals, argh.

But they are very pretty. However, they need to kiss more. *g*

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Date: 2008-04-06 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Keep on watching. Lack of kissing is definitly not their problem. Like I said, the issue isn't that they have progressed enough in their relationship, but that they have already broken up again (and Roman is sorta stalking Deniz now; well, not really stalking, but just yelling at him every time they meet; he needs a Timo).

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Date: 2008-04-06 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ort.livejournal.com
There should be more then the one clip in the video I posted. Keep watching, trust me there is most definitely more then kissing and it is hot.
Plus this show does the angst better then 'Verbotene Liebe', and I do love a beautiful man going through angst.
Yes, the lube scene is slightly slapstick, but if you keep watching it can be quite touching, and I think it is acted better as a general rule.
Also the actor who plays Deniz (the tall one with the dark hair), is quite simply beautiful. Leaves Christian and Olli for dead.

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Date: 2008-04-07 08:11 am (UTC)
ext_3626: (vl - oliver/christian)
From: [identity profile] frogspace.livejournal.com
Also the actor who plays Deniz (the tall one with the dark hair), is quite simply beautiful. Leaves Christian and Olli for dead.

Yay, the first pairing wars, bring them on! :D (Sorry, I'm a bit giddy from lack of sleep.)
Edited Date: 2008-04-07 08:24 am (UTC)

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Date: 2008-04-07 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Pairing wars. It's like telling people "I like eating bananas. Therefore you should stop eating apples!".

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Date: 2008-04-07 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ort.livejournal.com
No, I'm all for people enjoying Olli and Christian, even I don't mind them. I just like to mention to people that Deniz and Roman exist just so they know, and I will admit they are my favourite gay german couple. Although how great is it that when you say gay german couple it could mean more then one! I love the liberalism of Germany.
Deniz and Roman are probably my favourite because I started watching 'Alles was zahlt' first, but whatever the reason I do love them. It doesn't stop me taking and interest in Christian and Olli though.

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