Last boyspam of the night, I sort of promise!

[lobelia321]

Just watched some more of the Giga interview on youtube here. Alas, as yet sans English subtitles. Or French, or Portuguese, or Cantonese subtitles! *makes pathetic attempt at critique of Anglo-linguistic imperialism before succumbing to the Power of Dag*

What Jo says about kissing Christian:
Das ist in dem Moment alles andere als erotisch und geil.
(That is everything but erotic and hot.)

Meaning, that what with the crew there and being told 'put your hand there' and doing take after take --

YEAH, RIGHT! Oh Jo, you are SO in denial!

*cackles somewhat hysterically*

Also, Thore?? How mesmerised is he with the camera operators? Yes! *airpunches* He is so sneaking into the loos at lunchtime with Udo, the charming cameraman, and Udo sidles up to him, side by side at the urinals, and murmurs, Das war 'ne echt geile Kuss-szene heute mit dir und Jo. (That was a really hot kissing scene today with you and Jo.) And Christian stares determinedly at the mirror but his grey silk-and-polyester scarf suddenly feels tight around his throat, and at any rate, the scarf's tassels are getting in the way of his peeing, and then, oh dear, he finds he can't pee any longer because he's getting an embarrassing penile condition, and Udo's eyes pop out of their sockets with lust, and then they're both late for take 78 of the blooper lust scenes.

How, people, how can one write serious fic about these people? I am trying, believe me. But even my talents of imagination fail me. These people and this show, they just write themselves.

But fuck, they are so bland, irl and in canon, that I just need to see them on their knees in front of each other and with their trousers down and with their hot bland hands all over each other and their groping tongues making inept attempts at passion and oranges rolling and flying and bananas whizzing and mating and god, Gregor / Andreas wandering in some more and ogling non-muscular flesh. And then Thore's nipples go hard again despite himself (because it's not at all erotic) (and yes, those as remain that are not yet sucked into the boy vortex: stiff nipples are canon in this show).

And then Thore will go hunting on the week-end and hear stags roar and watch wild boars mate and he'll get all hot and bothered on his hunting stand and he'll shoot a lot more than just his rifle.

These boys are like the ultimate projection screen!!! This insane fandom /canon/ whatever it is, is like the opposite of a huge world-building fandom like SGA or Harry Potter: there is no world. It's all like lotrips badfic: kitchens, bathrooms, and more kitchens.

And moving onto rps: in lotrips, the actors, though mostly woefully B-rate and somewhat prone to woodenness (although they never ever attained the beauty of the wood in Verbotene Liebe wot is a forest, a veritable forest of the purest unalloyed timber), had complex and angsty inner lives (Monaghan! Drug problem! Mortensen! Painter and poet manqué! Bloom! Driven by ambition and semi-crippled in an accident years ago! Shah! A midget! Urban! Condemned to creature features!). These boys? Inner lives? Well, I'm still looking for some with a magnifying glass.

*is helplessly obsessed*

I listened to Sia's 'Breathless' about 15 times today and every time I just saw that bedroom in my mind, that absurd set, and that swoonsome scene where soap trivia and wood attained the epic beauty of pure melodramatic slash.

ETA: Also, to an unprecedented degree (unprecedented for me, anyway) this fandom blurs the lines more than any other I know between fps and rps. I think this must be because of the paucity of canon material. We get a few minutes every few days and are starved for fodder! So we hoover up anything!

Comments

[diglossia.livejournal.com]

Mmmmhhh...I know what you mean. Especially about the show canon.

Usually, when I get into a new fandom, I have all these crazy fic ideas. Mostly for cracked out AUs, but still. But with Verbotene Liebe, every single fic bunny I've had is a PWP. What's up with that? I'm usually all over soap opera-ish plots in fanfic.

I guess in this case the canon fulfills all of my badfic/curtainfic cravings. The only thing missing is kidfic. Ha! Now there's an idea.... XD

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

oooh, curtainfic, I have not come across this expression. :-)

I have only pwp in my head or insane crackiness or weird crossovers. And in other fandoms what used to replay in my head was scenes out of fic, out of fanon! But here it's that damn Kiss of 04.04.08, spooling through my head to the accompaniment of 'Breathe Me', over and over and over again.

What happens when slash goes canon? Is there a sort of warp in the Force???

[diglossia.livejournal.com]

Curtainfic

Really, the only thing missing from canon to make it completely satisfying to a slash audience is some slightly more explicit sex but that can be excused, since the kissing was so hot. *g*

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

I find the slashiness of the canon disturbing. What is there left for us to do????

[thelana.livejournal.com]

Hey don't knock the PWP! My mind is filled with this awesome PWP series (in German for no particular reason!!). And if I didn't have a math thing on Friday I would totally be writing it down.

[diglossia.livejournal.com]

You should write them down anyway... *hint hint* ;D

PWPs are awesome but I usually tend to read really long fic but VL is a long, fluffy slash fanfic in itself so all I'm really missing is some more sex. I'd still give my left arm for a long fic, though.

[thelana.livejournal.com]

The last time I read long was probably X-Files because the fandoms I like either don't produce long or I care enough about the fandoms that do. So to me it really isn't much difference :)

But I can see it too. The canon is soapy, so really the only plot you could do is soapy at a point where you are probably already overdosed on the soapy anyway :D While if you have a hard canon (crime/scifi) and write soapy in that is a contrast OR you can always write more hard canon yourself.

LOL, the only longer plot bunny I ever had for VL included Christian/Gregor incest, lots of Christian trying to convince Olli to take him back and both of them trying to convince Gregor not to kill himself. So.... not exactly the most appealing material :D (plus of course I can't write ;D)

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

Ah! If a fic can soap up a hard-boiled crime canon, then maybe a fic can also hard-boil a soap?

Hoho.

Take one bathroom soap. Place in very hot acid. Boil for 3,000 words.

omg, that is totally Christian-in-prison fic.

You really are a bunny generator!

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

pwp? Am I knocking it? I am obsessed with it! I am disturbed by my own obsession with it!

*kicks your maths thing*

[frogspace.livejournal.com]

Usually, when I get into a new fandom, I have all these crazy fic ideas. Mostly for cracked out AUs, but still. But with Verbotene Liebe, every single fic bunny I've had is a PWP.

Let me tell you, these two aren't mutually exclusive. By now I can't get rid of the cruise ship AU idea, the prison AU and the AU where they are in 19th century Bavaria, Christian is a Waldarbeiter/Holzfäller, his fiancée just left him and Oliver (who is related to one of the village elders) moved in. -_-

[thelana.livejournal.com]

Ever since Thore brought up horseback riding my mind keeps trying to come up with ways to make that happen. Darn, couldn't he have been one of the ever multiplying Lahnstein kids.

[frogspace.livejournal.com]

19th century Bavaria. Seriously. I've even done all the research. ^^°

[frogspace.livejournal.com]

Or Christian could be a forester? forest ranger? in the forest of the von Sabels. When the notorious nephew Oliver returns home from his travels, Christian falls in love with him. *cough* There are horses in there, somewhere.

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

Stallions!!!!

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

omg, Jägerroman.

It has to be written!! They can use words like Waidmann and Lampe and berzen (or is that bürzen?)

Anyway, roaring stags! Clumpy boots! Dialect!!!

*is embarrassed at paroxysms of lust that this idea throws her into*

[diglossia.livejournal.com]

BTW: Did you hear Thore talking about the food props they have on VL. I almost died when he said he eats that stuff anyway, even if it's covered in hairspray. (And hey, maybe that's the secret behind the orange's eternal youthfulness...)

[thelana.livejournal.com]

I so thought of you (lobelia) when they brought up food props. Bwhahahhahaha.

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

Oh, no! I didn't make it that far! Must! Watch! Tomorrow!

He eats the food!

Oh, this is priceless.

[crowie.livejournal.com]

Also with the fps - rps dilemma.

In this fandom whatever it is there really isn't *that* much difference, I mean, ok I know well that Thore and Jo aren't Christian and Olli but there is a distinct lack of well.. plot on the soap or what then the presence of elves or sci-fi stuffs in Space or Ancient Rome settings which very clearly help differentiate between the two.

What you've got is two boys who look damn good together and are well, rather bland really, and there is some angst and soul searching and omg am I gay? Which transfers quite easily into rps for that fic.

I am very amused by the whole thing though and enjoying the ride.

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

Christian goes hunting and Thore wants to kiss Jo and Jo is really a gay Medicopter pilot and Olli flies a broom.

Ah, you people! You're making me love them even more!

[thelana.livejournal.com]

Somebody translated the first two parts Over here.

[thelana.livejournal.com]

Oh and Thore and the cameraman was hilarious. He got pissed because the cameraman was laughing at him while he talking about the storyline and the rest of the interview he was like "You are on my shitlist" :D

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

Today I wrote an entire fic Uwe the cameraman / Heiko the Regieassistent in my head.

They're not even OC!!! Except for the names, obviously. Does VL even have proper credits??? Who are the directors?

I need to know the names of each and every guy on that show who might have groped Thore in the toilets.