inception slash! it exists!

[lobelia321]

Ooh, thanks to prairiedaun and azewewish, I have discovered the shiny new fandom of Inception!

I love fandom! Fandom moves fast.

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[karneol-vision.livejournal.com]

Lol, you said you're not sure Sherlock Holmes is a whoey! fandom (which I assure you it is, lol) and now you're into Inception (which is like really tiny xD).

Hm, I wonder if it lasts beyond the movie...

[azewewish.livejournal.com]

Somehow I think the almost 1000 people over at inceptionfic would agree with you about the tiny thing:

http://community.livejournal.com/inceptionfic/profile

Especially given the sheer number of fics posted each day.

[karneol-vision.livejournal.com]

Hm, it seems they have a strong bunch of followers and a big one, that's surprising, I admit. (Maybe it's due to the popularity of the actors mainly though.)
But none of the fic or art swaps anywhere beyond the borders of that comm it seems to me, you know? it must be all pretty tight and closed off.

[azewewish.livejournal.com]

I'm sure the pretty actors have something to do with it, but The Losers and Watchmen had plenty of pretty & they didn't have this sort of following. Honestly, I think it's the film itself & the trippiness of the plot & the limitless possibilities one can use for stories & the chemistry with the characters.

I can't speak for how closed off the community is, but everyone on MY flist is talking about this film & talking about writing & reading fic about it.

[karneol-vision.livejournal.com]

I see. Well I'll be honest, I haven't seen anyone talk about it yet, not even the couple Americans I know, nor the mainly American fic/art comms, and I don't mean lj alone, this is why I wasn't even aware of the current size of this fandom, I guess I just don't know the right people, haha.

I'm sure you're right about the potential and the reasons why it's interesting for writers though.

As to things like Watchmen, haven't those been slashed/written before the movie either, just like other comics? To my mind that's simply not such a 'mainstream'-fandom like those other comics, see Batman, Superman, Spiderman, etc.

[azewewish.livejournal.com]

It might be a very American fandom, I don't know. I mean, I am American, but I have a pretty international flist, so take it as it is. I just think that a lot of the people on my flist have been drifting, fandom-wise, since Trek came out, and bam!, here's Inception.

The beauty of fandom is that there will always be the stalwarts & standbys - your Merlins & Supernaturals & Harry Potters & SGAs & even Lotrips is still going pretty strong - but it's the shiny new fandoms that get people jazzed about writing & creating again. And there's no telling what that's going to be. I mean, let's face it, Supernatural gets less than 3 million viewers a week here in the States, but it's such a huge fandom, whereas you have a show here like NCIS:Los Angeles, which has an equally pretty & slashable cast & over 15 million viewers a week & almost zero presence in the fandom world.

[karneol-vision.livejournal.com]

I looked into the fandom and... *whine* it's like over 90% are Arthur-centered fics. That's not what I call broad :(
I walked home after watching the movie with ideas about stories that might have been written, and then my enthusiasm kind of died mid-step at seeing most existing stories. I've gone almost entirely through the inceptionfic and the inceptionslash comm and I don't know but is there some more diversity that I have missed?

[azewewish.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Eames/Arthur is the main & overwhelming pairing of choice in the Inception fandom. But if you don't want to write about Arthur, man, then don't. There are plenty of Fischer and Eames and Saito and Cobb and Ariadne and Mal fans (and comms for all of these characters) out there that will happily read anything you want to write.

[karneol-vision.livejournal.com]

Nah, the problem is I'm not a writer in that fandom. I'm not a writer anywhere for a long time, and have been hoping for interesting reading material in this specific one, which it unfortunately does not provide, not even the inception-kink comm. I haven't found any satisfying individual coms neither. Nevermind, I guess this fandom is simply an impasse for me.

[karneol-vision.livejournal.com]

by saying it doesn't provide interesting reading material I'm only speaking of interesting for me of course. not in a general sense.

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

Nobody on my flist was talking about this! I clearly have the wrong flist.... (Well, I don't really mean that; I love my flist! But maybe I've spent too much time customising and filtering out so that I'm not getting new input... who knows?) Or perhaps I'm just not paying enough attention? I know you (aze) are always waving things in front of my face and yelling 'look, look, pay attention!' ;-)

The actors are very pretty! But somehow this didn't occur to me until I saw the slash. (Yeah, duh, I know. Except for Cillan Murphy. Who is insanely beautiful, like something from another planet.)

nk it's the film itself & the trippiness of the plot & the limitless possibilities one can use for stories
Also something that didn't occur to me until I saw this wot u recced. But then, I immediately went: OF COURSE! They're in DREAMS! omg it's like SGA virtual realities all rolled into one delicious thing. Because: potential of virtual worlds plus potential of angsty psycho stuff = explosive potential!

Yes. I'm getting that.

[azewewish.livejournal.com]

Pretty much. There's a ton of pretty people & the potential for great world building. That's totally catnip to fandom. *g*

[sheldrake.livejournal.com]

Too fast! I feel a bit travel sick. I'm currently watching a couple of Sherlock comms, but I fear they're going to have to go soon -- all the sudden activity and fannishness is a shock to the system. I'd just got used to being in an incredibly tiny fandom in which a handful of people whisper like tiny paranoid mices. Granted, they mostly whisper obscenities and insults, but still. After that, Sherlock was like a sudden technicolour explosion.

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

David Mitchell? Is this the tiny fandom?

Fandom is so weird. And tininess is somehow not a limitation to fannishness. I've been in humungous fandoms with fans in the thousands, and in minuscule fandoms-for-two-or-three, and the obsession factor is no different.

I submit, however, that it takes at least one other fan. I've tried to be in fandoms of one and it's not the real thing. It's the sad thing. (However, if one is obsessed enough one continues regardless. Also, these days it's almost impossible to be in a fandom of one as teh internet is an omnivore.)

[vasiliki.livejournal.com]

Shiny, but tiny... I doubt it'll last beyond a few weeks (months?) because there'll be nothing to sustain it! The actors are handsome, but are they hugging and KISSING each other, like the ones in my icon do? ;P (oh, you need to write some Supernatural RPS! They're too subtexty!)

[azewewish.livejournal.com]

Somehow I think the almost 1000 people over at inceptionfic would not agree with you about the tiny thing:

http://community.livejournal.com/inceptionfic/profile

Especially given the sheer number of fics posted each day.

[vasiliki.livejournal.com]

It's tiny compared to the other fandoms that were mentioned in Lobelia's last post! :) For example, in SPN, Mishaland alone has 3000+ members (just for ONE actor!), while the Dean/Sam comm has 6000+ followers. In HP, there are H/D writers with 1000+ followers each. In the H/D Holidays comm, even new writers were receiving 5-10 pages of comments! And that's just for ONE pairing - it's total craziness if you're into more!

Perhaps you mean it isn't tiny compared to its newness, in which case I totally agree with you. But will this burst of activity last beyond summer? While with SPN, that I suggested, there's a burst of activity after every Con (and there were 2 in July! Looking forward to Vancouver Con in August!), and of course weekly new input once the next season starts. If someone is looking for an active fandom to commit herself to, I feel the long term commitment pays off more. (although shiny summer flings can be satisfying, too! ;))

[azewewish.livejournal.com]

Okay, but SPN and HP aren't NEW fandoms. They're very old, established fandoms, which pretty much negates them as far as "new & happening", which is what Lobelia was asking about.

You obviously love the SPN fandom & good for you, really, but that's not a fandom for everyone, especially if you don't watch the show. Not to mention, it's incredibly wanky & incredibly OTP about its pairings.

TV fandoms definitely tend to last longer than movie fandoms, simply because of the new canon every week, but I think it's incredibly dismissive & sort of rude to say that movie fandoms don't count because they don't have as much canon to draw from. And say what you want about the Inception fandom, man, but it's got a LOT of people who hadn't been writing lately excited about writing & reading again & that can only be a good thing.

[vasiliki.livejournal.com]

They're very old, established fandoms, which pretty much negates them as far as "new & happening", which is what Lobelia was asking about.

She asked for a Happening Fandom, not a NEW Happening Fandom, which is why she received all those answers she did. If she had asked for a NEW Happening Fandom, the responses wouldn't have been the same.

I think it's incredibly dismissive & sort of rude to say that movie fandoms don't count because they don't have as much canon to draw from.

I never said that! Re-read what I wrote. "Pirates of the Carribean" was a movie.

And say what you want about the Inception fandom, man, but it's got a LOT of people who hadn't been writing lately excited about writing & reading again & that can only be a good thing.

Of course it's a good thing. Did *I* say anywhere that it's a bad thing? I only said I don't believe it'll have duration - nobody talks about it on my flist (actually, 1 person did, but with a negative review). So, my experience hasn't been the same with yours regarding this film. Perhaps this is going to change, after I watch it tonight!

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

Inception! Pirates of the Caribbean! Movies! TV series! RPS! Long solid golden-anniversary marriages!Star Trek! Short flash-in-the-pan obsessions (Hetty Wainthropp! um, for me anyway)!

'tis all good. Exceedingly good.

Who knows what I meant with 'happening'? Well, I did, sort of, but I'm open to different interpretations of the term. :-) I think it can mean lots of fans but it has to be more than that: the fans have to be doing something. Lots of traffic would betoken doing lots of somethings, so that would suggest 'Happeningness' (whatever that may be). Instant traffic is also an indicator, as in 'hey I posted a fic 10 minutes ago and already I have 72 squee posts and people haven't even had time to read it yet' (I've been in fandoms like that!!) Random squee and being plastered all over LJ is also an indication (but as I clearly live in some sort of fandom trough and can't see what's happening beyond, I can be no judge... *headclaps*)

Oh, I know the last excitement fandom I was in! Verbotene Liebe! How could I forget? I thought once a German soap becomes known all over teh webs and non-German-speakers start being obsessed -- that's Happening. And also Flash in the Pan. Didn't last beyond a few months. But then the World Cup only lasts 6 weeks -- but what weeks! *wipes brow* (I couldn't cope with more than 6, actually...)

Um, I'm sure there was a thread to this comment.

I shall go and look for this thread. Ariadne-like. (God, I'm corny.)