daily word count plus plans for musings

[lobelia321]

Daily word count: 0 (zero). But I did teach, attend a meeting, have coffee with a pregnant friend and buy myself a top and a silk scarf for under eighteen pounds, so.

Also, am loving a fic I've now read twice and will ooze drool about this tomorrow or Friday; too tired now.

Also, am planning a post on the distinct narrative characteristics of slash-fanfic vs published literature / genfic, the type of stuff I realise now I left out of my narratological analysis. This would include pairings and the teleology of lust'n'love. (Or lust-then-love, or lust-and-frustrated-love-angst.) Can't think of anything else now, there must be more, but need to fall into t'bed.

Am I letting my flist down by being such an on-line bore?

Comments

[tvillingar.livejournal.com]

You're not boring but sometimes I've no idea what you're talking about. That probably sounds rude but it's not meant as an insult: I'm sure part of it is the language barrier, again, though I'm not entirely sure I'd understand your narratological tales in Finnish either. Another part is that I'm not very familiar with this academic type of thinking/researching so it mostly just goes over my head. La la la.

Not that I don't find your musings interesting or entertaining, it's the understanding I have problems with.

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

Hm, I wonder what all this would be in Finnish?? Narratölök.

Um, I googled 'narratology' on Finnish sites and came up with this:

Gerard Genette on erotellut fiktiivisiä kertomuksia koskevassa teoriassaan kaksi aikaa, "diskurssiajan", jonka muodostuu itse esityksestä ja "tarina-ajan", joka tarkoittaa kerronnan kohteena olevien tapahtumien sarjaa.

I have no idea what it says (alas) but Gerard Genette is my hero!

[tvillingar.livejournal.com]

You know, 'narratölök' sounds more like Hungarian. They seem to have those -ölök things a lot. Plus Hungarian is somehow distantly related to Finnish (no, really). What comes to narratology, I suspect it's "translated" only as narratologia or it has one of those strange translations no one uses because everyone understands what narratologia means.

I've no idea who Gerard Genette is but this paragraph is about some theory of his; fictional stories (fiktiivisiä kertomuksia) have to timelines, "diskurssiaika" (which I've no idea how to translate) which is the performance time and "story-time" (tarina-aika) which is the series of events in the performance.

smillasnowflake, who studies linguistics, would probably even undestand what this is about ;)

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

I know what all of those words mean!!! Agh! I was Finnish in a past life! And sorry about mixing your language up with Hungarian, I knew about the ugric-Finnic connection. I have got a book on Languages in Europe! Unfortunately, reading the book does not make one know the languages... Diskurssiaka is probably something to do with discourse in English. :-)

[childeproof.livejournal.com]

Narrative characteristics of slash would be wonderful. I thought of doing a Hero with a Thousand Faces spoof myself at one stage, though I couldn't decide in the end how many (how few?) faces slash 'heroes' had, anyway. And then I decided I do enough lit. analysis in RL, and when I'm maddened by marking, I'd much rather write Hero with a Thousand Faces, All Equally Self-Loathing slash myself, thanks.

But you should entirely do it.

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

What is Hero with a Thousand Faces? And what does it mean theoretically? How can one talk of slash heroes having 'faces'? I am intrigued!

I am fortunate in that I dabble in narratology for research and recreational purposes; there is a sort of happy overlap between my current research and my slashy lust. But my research is all about pictures so I don't get bored with the text aspect of it. :-)

[childeproof.livejournal.com]

Influential 1949 psychoanalysis/myth book by Joseph Campbell, details here.

I've never read it, to be honest, and it sounds ropey in the extreme, but quite a few novelists I know and respect have found it extraordinarily important for their work. I should read it, I suppose. (So, as you can see, it wouldn't have been the most rigorous of spoofs...)

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

O God, no, I can't stand those 1970s expanding-the-mind folklore-loving things. OK, I know this is 1940s but it was big in the 1970s, wasn't it?

[msilverstar]

never! you are you and that's the fun part :-)

[lobelia321.livejournal.com]

You are sweet to say that! As sweet as Dom's lollypop!